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Can one simultaneously be baffled and pleased?

It appears so. The MoJ have published a consultation on Court fees. Long time readers of this blog will know my rather low opinion of consultations  (they are a way of breaking bad news to people whilst pretending that “your view can make a difference”)


And any consultation on Court fees normally means one thing – they’re going up, stand still whilst the MoJ mugs you. It is so tiresome for the MOJ if you wriggle about whilst they go through your pockets and wallet.


This one, it appears not



Please send your response by 21/01/14 to:

Graeme Cummings Ministry of Justice Law and Access to Justice Group Post Point 4.38 102 Petty France London SW1H 9AJ

Tel: (020) 3334 4938

Fax: (020) 3334 2233



[Might actually be worth doing that, this time]



Here are some good news items from it  (good news, from an MoJ consultation on fee changes, you can see why I am baffled)


Removing the fee from Non-molestation or Occupation order applications (currently £75).  Given what a palaver getting the fee-exemption was, many people ended up just paying the fee, and it always seemed wrong to me that people should have to pay a fee to get protection from domestic violence.


The fee for any application in Children Act cases (other than s31) is now just £215, same across the board. No more looking up in a chart to try to work out just what the bloody fee is for those applications that you hardly ever make. It’s just a standard fee across the board. That’s gone up a bit (£35) for most of the applications.


And here’s the odd one  – you may recall that the fee for issuing care proceedings went up several thousand per cent – from about £175 to over £5,000, and went up again in April.

The lie / spin at the time was that this was completely cost-neutral and would be covered by central government funding and that it was not an attempt to artificially depress care proceedings or provide a financial incentive for Local Authorities not to place cases before the Court.  You may recall a judicial review that didn’t succeed, and then all the various reports saying “these fees should be abolished”.   If the fees ever were cost-neutral, which almost anyone in local government would dispute, they certainly aren’t now, as central funding has been salami sliced over many years. Those court fees represent a significant drain on public authorities limited resources.   


The current arrangement is that the LA pay the court a fee of £3,320 up front, and then a further fee of £2,155 if there’s a final hearing.


Well, I immediately look for that section, to see how much care proceeding court fees are going to go up by, and see the proposals are :-


Flat fee on issue to change from £3,320 to £2,000   (yes, that’s actually gone DOWN)


Fee for final hearing to change from £2,155 to £0   (yes, that’s actually nothing)


This is something of a climb-down – I mean, it’s not the recommendation of the Laming report, the Plowden report or the Family Justice Review (all of which the Government said in advance they would implement in full) that the fees be scrapped entirely, but it’s a START.

 I couldn’t find anything within the consultation document that was a rationale for this reduction, so I went to the public attitude survey here

 in which people were surveyed about court fees and given some hypothetical examples to set fees for. (There are some interesting things, more useful for private law, about public attitudes towards fairness of the court system)


[I did this exercise  because if I see a gift horse, the first thing I DO is look in its mouth. It is nonsensical advice to say “Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”  – the story comes from the Trojan War, and OF COURSE the Trojans should have been wary about the gift horse…]


Anyway, there’s nothing in that either.  In any event, thank you MoJ for a consultation document that made me happy rather than miserable. Let’s see if it translates into action.


(That’s potentially a lot of money that can be spent on services to help and support troubled families, so it is not just good news for Local Authorities, but for real people too)

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3 responses

  1. No: to look a gift horse in the mouth means to examine its teeth to see how old it is, which is (apparently) how you tell the age of a horse, and if it is given don’t make a fuss, be glad of it. Nothing to do with the Trojan wars.

    Quidquid id est, timeo Danaos et dona ferentes . . .

    • You know, when I wrote that, I thought “I should double-check that”. That will teach me. I was really just looking for any sort of rationale (or frankly, just where the catch was) even though the headline news was good. I should have stayed away from horses entirely.

      Also Andrew, if I ever get onto Who Wants to be a Millionaire, can I have you as my phone a friend?

  2. My wife calls me a sodding know-all when I say things like that.

    Which reminds me of a story which appeared in a book of memoirs in the late Forties by a chap who had been SBO at a POW camp. There had been an unsuccessful attempt to escape and they were all pulled out, very depressed, in the middle of the night to listen to a harangue by the Kommandant which ended with the words

    You think we know fuck-nothing but you are wrong – we know fuck-all.

    He was greeted with an outburst of mirth which went some way to dispel the gloom over the failure of the break-out and which only made him angrier. In the end they were sent off to their huts.

    The next day the author had to see him on routine business and found him still annoyed. “Your officers treated me with gross disrespect when they laughed at me” – such was his beef.

    The author then says: I thought about it and decided that it would not constitute trading with the enemy if I gave him a brief lesson in the finer points of English idiom. He accepted it; was mollified; and even allowed himself the ghost of a smile.

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