- You can take cheese out of this communal fridge if your best interests require it. Yours, Act
2.Taking the cheese out of this fridge is a draconian resort and one that should only be done as a last resort. Having said that, if your best interests mean that you NEED to take the cheese, that’s fine. Just, y’know, think about it first. Yours, Caselaw
3. But everyone, please remember that if you ARE going to take any cheese, you must be sure that it is proportionate and necessary. Yours, HRA
4. What the hell are you students doing with the cheese? If you don’t behave yourself with the way you take cheese or decide to take cheese or how much cheese, then we’ll have to come and put a bloody lock on the fridge. Also, what’s with your fascination with cheddar? Why not try some brie, or parmesan or Edam? Yours, Y v UK
5. Everyone, for goodness sake, you’ve seen what Y v UK said, but everyone’s ignoring it. This is not cool. We are not being cool here. Oh yes, ha ha, fridge related pun there, very funny. This is really really serious everyone. Listen! The fridge is going to be locked if everyone doesn’t learn to be responsible about the cheese. We think the best thing is to have a snappy easy to remember sentence, then everyone can be really clear about when it is OKAY to take cheese and when it is very much not okay to take cheese. Nothing ever goes wrong with snappy catchphrases (like, for example “no return to boom and bust” – that had literally no downside at all) …. So from now on, just remember, “Only take cheese from the communal fridge if NOTHING ELSE WILL DO” . Yours, Re B
6. You all heard what Re B said, and we agree. And also, if you are going to take any cheese out of the fridge, you must leave a really detailed note explaining exactly why nothing else will do, and setting out all the other options that you considered (going down the shops, going hungry, ordering takeway, taking hummus instead) and what the pros and cons are of each of those options and why if you DO decide to take any cheese, why NOTHING ELSE WILL DO” Yours Re BS
7. Why the hell is this fridge full of cheese? There’s no room for anything else. We aren’t going to be able to close the fridge door soon if nobody takes any of this damn cheese out of it. We need to be getting much more of this cheese out of the fridge and into sandwiches, or grated onto pizzas. We don’t understand this developing cheese mountain. What the actual heck, people? Who has been telling people not to take the cheese? Yours, The Government.
8. Our fridge is full of cheese. It is very bad for cheese to continue to be sitting in the fridge, languishing there, when it could be forming meaningful happy relationships on top of a spag bol. Listen, I know some of you mistakenly believe that recent passive-aggressive post it notes on the fridge have changed the rules and that it has become much harder to take cheese out of the communal fridge, but all of you are wrong. You fools. Just go back and read the very first note, by Act, and do that. And remember that the Government wants much more of this cheese gone, and they are weighing it once a month now to see if you’re managing. If you don’t get it sorted, then the Government will get Capita to come in and run the fridge services for a lucrative fee. Yours, Mythbusters (oh also, the President agrees with this)
9. I agree with all of that, only I don’t actually agree with it and I will undermine it subtly throughout this note. However, if people are taking literally the test as being “NOTHING ELSE WILL DO” they are mistaken, because they simply didn’t understand that post-it notes 3, 4, 5 and 6 said. I hope that’s all clear now. Sometimes it is the best thing for the cheese to be taken out of the fridge, and if so, people must not be afraid of doing it. But they should only do it if nothing else will do. Yours The President Re R
10. Once the fridge door has been open and the cheese is in your hand, there is no presumption that the cheese OUGHT to go back in the fridge rather than be grated onto spag bol. We have to start from a neutral position and consider what is really best for the cheese at that point. Also, we slightly regret the “Nothing else will do” shorthand label referred to in post it note 5, but because Re B has been in the house longer than us, we can’t actually say they’re wrong. Ignore it though once the cheese is actually in your hand, even if the fridge door is still open. It doesn’t count then. But more generally, of course “nothing else will do” applies. But, you know, just take it with a pinch of salt. (Not the cheese, the guidance) Yours, Re W
(Oh man, researching google image for passive aggressive fridge notes turns up some shockers. Here are just four – because the first is more about dishes, I think)
I like on this both the neat triangular one and ‘disapproving mum face’
That’s a strong retaliatory position. Though I would place smoked kippers in the fridge and sit back to watch the show
I don’t know about you, but if I worked there, Tina from HR would be going hungry EVERY single lunchtime.
Let’s hope when the threats to maim co-workers goes to HR, it isn’t Tina investigating it
suesspiciousminds 
Laugh out loud delightful after one of those tough weeks!
Caroline Little Solicitor Hanne & Co Sent from my iPhone
Fantastic. I love this. A local authority lawyer.
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The problem is, that the only babies/children available for adoption, since single mumhood and abortion are those in state care.
That is why, care applications have rocketed and continue to do so,, and homeless/vulnerable mums, are placed in mum and baby units, subject to care supervision orders, so their babies born into care.
Babies are what everyone wants, so they will immediately be taken out of the fridge, and the under 4s are popular, that is why over 6 years, social workers, have been told to concentrate on their protection, known as early intervention.
The older ones who need protection- Rotherham, either never get in fridge, or go off there- escape from.care
The fridge is, in any event, getting bigger, even though, they were running out of foster carers at over £1000 a week to agents, often backed by venture capital., we are building care homes at £200,000 a year, and for the very troubled the booming mental health industry.
Lets not kid ourselves, this is about law, or protection, but making profit. At a payment of £30,000 to adoption agency per adoption.
How can we judge whether this is in their ‘best interests,’ when we do not follow up the outcomes of what happens to these babies and children, in fact we do not even bother to have definitive numbers of those re entering care on adoption breakdown.
Well, we already know the horrendous statistics for children taken into care. The poor outcomes and destroyed lives. With widespread dishonesty and lies among cheese purveyors, cheese will continue to be removed without good cause, all too often without any cause. Cheese theft is a very serious issue in the UK, it is a widespread problem and getting worse. Everyone and his uncle seem to have something to say about cheese. even though they are often complete amateurs when it comes to cheese and dishonest cheese appraisal will continue to destroy fridges across the land and cause cheese to become rancid and inedible for life whilst these cheese amateurs think they are experts and continue to lie about the state of the cheese. In the meantime, cheese that is rotting to nothing in the fridge because nobody cared, whilst they greedily lied to get their hands on the happy cheeses.
That’s because the purveyors of cheese, the experts, the research are paid by the controllers of the fridge to decide who goes in..
Most of those who should go in, go off outside, and those who should come out, fester inside because profit is the decider.
And now the fridge controller has shown his true colours by asking parliament for the right not to be liable should all the cheese go off.
Everyone has an opinion on cheese and they will often differ. Trouble is, when a negative opinion on a good piece of cheese that is sitting happily in the fridge is contrived and further believed by those in power, the cheese will be pilfered. It will never again be the same piece of cheese. Should have been left in the fridge to mature. Instead of being taken in and out and put in a different fridge running a different temperature. It may still mature, but it will lose it’s flavour and zing and won’t even be any good for a bit of welsh rarebit, let-alone accompanying a good bottle of port with the odd cracker. It’ll be the equivalent of a cheesy threadbare sock that often can’t be darned and will be consigned to the bin. The moral? Cheese should only be rehomed when the fridge it is in has entirely broken down and cannot be fixed, some fridges might need a service with a little bit of investment, but most fridges, in all their shapes and sizes are doing very well thanks very much and should be left alone to ripen their cheeses how they see fit. Cheese purveyors know nothing about fridges and their opinions are invalid. Cheese engineering has to stop.
Adoption agencies are not allowed to make a profit, under statutory regulations.
That sucks for the shareholders … why would you have shareholders if you’re not making profit?
You might want to rethink this ….
https://corporatewatch.org/news/2015/dec/15/foster-care-business
Most adoption agencies are registered charities and don’t have shareholders.
Then what happens to the £30,000 Interagency Adoption Fee lump sum paid to the adoption agency which increases every year ?
Regardless of how difficult it is for an agency to find adopting parents.
And, the discretionary without limit payments, that can be made, if a child is deemed hard to place.
The Charitable adoption agencies cannot make a public profit, but can make a profit per se, which is recycled like that of Universities St Andrews Healthcare etc.
But these charitable adoption agencies have mostly now been bought up by private corporations, some backed by venture capital.
All catholic adoption agencies have now ceased to exist due to the Charity Commission intervention..
Click on the relevant link below to go straight to a particular company:
Foster Care Associates; National Fostering Agency, The Foster Care Agency; Acorn Care and Education, Fostering Solutions, Pathway Care Fostering and Heath Farm Fostering; Partnerships in Children’s Services, Orange Grove, ISP, Fosterplus and Clifford House; Swiis Foster Care; Capstone Foster Care; Compass Fostering, The Fostering Partnership, Eden Foster Care and Seafields Fostering; Caretech
https://corporatewatch.org/news/2015/dec/15/foster-care-business
Foster Care Associates
Owned by: Jim Cockburn and Janet Rees through Ideapark Ltd
Income from foster care in 2014**: £127.2m
Payouts to owner in 2014: £7m
Highest paid director salary and other benefits: £406,000
National Fostering Agency (includes the Foster Care Agency)
Owned by: Stirling Square Capital Partners (previously Graphite Capital until April 2015)
Income from foster care in 2014*: £94.5m
Payouts to owners in 2014: £14.4m to Graphite Capital
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £318,112
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Acorn Care and Education (includes Fostering Solutions, Pathway Care Fostering and Heath Farm Fostering)
Owned by: Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan
Income from foster care in 2014*: £73.1m
Payouts to owners: £13m accrued in 2014
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £266,420
back.
Partnerships in Children’s Services (includes Orange Grove, ISP, Fosterplus and Clifford House)
Owned by: Sovereign Capital
Income from foster care in 2014*: £29.8m
Payouts to owners in 2014: £1.9m
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: not shown in accounts
we have not heard back.
Swiis Foster Care
Owned by: Dev Dadral and family
Income from foster care in 2014: £29.4m
Payouts to owners in 2014: £1.5m (from the wider Swiis group, see below)
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £169,000
Capstone Foster Care
Owned by: Different individuals and companies (see below)
Income from foster care in 2015: £21.1m
Payouts to owners in 2015: £406,000
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £185,000
Compass Fostering (includes The Fostering Partnership, Eden Foster Care and Seafields Fostering)
Owned by: August Equity
Income from foster care in 2015: £25.9m
Payouts to owners in 2015: £3.1m accrued
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £131,000
caretech
Owners: shares are publicly-listed – Farouq and Haroon Sheikh biggest shareholders with 20%
Income from foster care in 2014: £12m
Payouts to owners in 2014: £240,000 in 2014
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £324,000
Thank you so much for all this information, all gathered in one place.
Makes it absolutely clear, what the object of the whole exercise really is..
And, as with Mental Health Care, all the smaller players, will be bought up by USA/.Canadian venture capital eventually, and each buy out make millions for the owners/shareholders/director.
Lets not kid ourselves, that this is about fine nuances of law, or child protection
This is about commercial awareness, creating and feeding a market and making billions from public money, welfare and the state’s duty to protect our most vulnerable. .
It never was about child protection. If it was, there wouldn’t be actually abused children dying under the watch of social services and well-cared for children being utterly abused by the state by being ripped from loving homes and traumatised for life. There wouldn’t be foster and adoptive parents abusing and killing children and there wouldn’t be “care” homes where not only do they suffer further abuse and in some cases paedophiles having access to them, but their life outcomes being so appalling. Not to mention all the thousands of missing from “care” children which are never explained, including babies. Who is the state kidding here. Glad peoples’ eyes are opening.
Courts refuse to return children to their families on the ridiculous premise that it would uproot them and they are settled – WTF do they think they were before they were kidnapped by the state!
And add all those dead and abused who should have been taken into care or preferably put with a relative who would protect them.
We have no numbers of those and if in any way the huge number of recent years care orders have actually reduced these numbers.
And think by now the literally billions wasted on lawyers, courts, social workers, experts, foster parents, care homes.
And lets not forget the huge sums given to charities to not independently
Well I can pretty much answer your question about children being taken into care reducing those numbers – the answer has to be no based on this. (And that doesn’t factor in how many are wrongfully taken based on state failings as regards neurodevelopmental conditions such as autism spectrum (including PDA) and ADHD which the state so often fails to diagnose, recognise or support adequately.)
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/15/rise-in-referrals-social-services-trauma-families-child-protection
“A huge increase in the number of children being referred to social services has caused “catastrophic” trauma for tens of thousands of families without any corresponding increase in the number of child abuse cases detected, the author of a study has said.
According to statistical analysis by the University of the West of England, child protection referrals have risen by 297% since the Children Act came into force 23 years ago, and assessments by social services have risen by 359%. The proportion of cases in which abuse was identified has plummeted from 24% to just under 8%.
“We are now at a situation where up to 5% of all families are now referred for assessment every year,” said Dr Lauren Devine, principal investigator of the Economic and Social Research Council-funded study.”
Says it all really. Sometimes it’s because of ignorance and over-protecting their backs and other times it’s based on very deliberate retribution against parents who may be requesting resources. It’s a barrel full of rotten apples all the way through.
Sadly, but fortuitously, for our government, they will have mental health issues, probably for life.
And will make huge profits, for our third largest industry- Pharma, and our ever burgeoning mental health industry, the other Flag ship of this and previous governments.
In USA half of all foster children are now on prescribed mental medication , I could find no figures in UK, so research to find out is needed.
Thank you very much for all these figures, that show the desperate abuse of our children, our money, and their future.
And that our government, clearly does not care how they make profit.
Quite beyond belief and mentioned no where in media etc, such is the media control. ;
“Then what happens to the £30,000 Interagency Adoption Fee lump sum paid to the adoption agency which increases every year?” £30k is the cost price of recruiting, assessing and supporting an adopter for an LA or VAA, agree with adoption or not, either agency uses those funds to resource the next adopter. It doesn’t increase every year.
Fostering agencies are allowed to make a profit, I don’t agree with that.
It rocketed after the babyP and Victoria Climbie outcry, how many people wonder if they were collateral damage? Leaving An excuse to start a whole new opening for ‘future risk crystal ball prediction social work’
Both Victoria and Baby, were killed under the Social Services watch. Victoria was fostered by her aunt, approved and monitored by the social services.
And Baby P’s mother and boyfriend, were in the same position.
Her mother even posing in a training video for social workers, showing how well a parent could be rehabilitated.
Baby P was also reported to the NSPCC, who did not investigate, but closed their file, and then spent £80,000 on a barrister excusing this at the public enquiry.
Baby P’s mother and boyfriends criminal trial, was just a few lines in the papers, until Cameron, then in opposition, raised the issue in the Commons, and then it went viral, yet, the other 263 that died in similar circumstances, and still do, were not mentioned.
Cameron’s Flagship policy was then adoption a year later .
Two fundamental questions need be answered by research, to show this really is about child protection not profit.
How many children now are dying at the hands of parents/carers, and, has the nearly doubling of those taken into care improved the death rates ?
And what are the outcomes for those taken into care, including how many adoptions breakdown ?
In part response finolamoss … children are dying after removal to foster carers, the system simply does not work
awesome – t/y
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Widespread austerity surely means the time to abolish state-sanctioned cheese pilfering – at taxpayers expense – is now here?
Austerity, LA cut to the bone budgets, are the excuse to just raise more money, for ever greedy private provision, and not to provide adequate support to families.
Other than removal to adoption/foster/care home, or if learning disabled the venture capital owned institutions of ‘community living’ previously ‘independent living’, there is no other support.
T May will use this, as an excuse, to take even more money from the tax payer. not to provide care/support at home and in a real community, but unaccountable monopoly care provision chosen and overseen by the state.
This is now the modus of provision for all public services..
The cheese is mine, I made it and I have left the county with it.
You state cheese stealers for money and use secret cheese courts to take innocent cheeses away cannot take my cheese. Yours an ex british dairy hand
It is time the secret cheese courts were opened up to public scrutiny
“To ask the prime minister and any of the cabinet how many cheeses they have taken or left in a pub?” J Hemming
Once a cheese has been put in another fridge neither the original cheese owners nor the share holders of the original cheese owners have an automatic right to have overturned the new cheese storage arrangements and claim the cheese back if the cheese is now settled, even if the cheese removal rules were not properly followed the best interests of the cheese is always paramount and it would be wrong to upset the cheese further.
Tesco & Shareholders v Haringey Council Staff canteen
on appeal from the lower cheese tribunal
Tesco et al are appealing to the European Court of Cheese Rights with interventions from ASDA, M&S and several Delicatessens
We all loved the ‘cheese’ examples blog and subsequent pics of washing up conflicts ! New style of writing emerging ? It was intelligent , metaphor laden and good for an Xmas post !
Humorous yes but what people forget when exposed to the family court system is that what is at stake are peoples own children, their lifeblood and state sponsored kidnapping at the worst. Sadly the Guardians of the system have yet to understand that children from not good enough homes do better at home than in any other type of household, and the PC cavalier approach of the State has gone too far. What happened to help and assistance to improve the current cheese storage facility rather than rehoming?
25 years ago a huge market was spotted, the need for other people’s children.
In the past, we had mother’s sadly and very reluctantly, giving up their children due to social circumstances and stigma, the ones we see in ‘Long Lost Families’.
Adoptions were arranged through church adoption agencies, who did not charge, and were completely independent of the state funded by their church funds.
This is no longer the case. Instead, the state have homed in on a lucrative need, and have now destroyed all independent adoption agencies, by allowing only LA approved agencies commissioned by them.
Some still are ‘charitable’, but in name only, as make huge recycled profits like CORAM.
Blair put it all in place by legislation in 2004, when CAFCASS was set up, and the Chair of The Trustees of British Adoption and Fostering Agency, whose main purpose is to promote adoption and fostering, was appointed the chief executive of CAFCASS.
So, the people and legislation were in place, and then Cameron honed it, as his Flagship Policy, brought in 26 week care limit proceedings, earlier intervention and increased the interagency fee, currently £30,000 per child.
CORAM were/ are outsourced to assess parents and on 2010 figures, got £7,000 for this, but £33,000 if the child was actually adopted through them.
‘Concurrent planning’ was piloted in 2009, it has now been renamed ‘fostering to adopt’, this places the baby/child immediately with the prospective adopters, making it legally almost impossible to reclaim the child.
Girls leaving care who are pregnant often have adoption placed in their Care Pathway Plan, and are lead to believe they have no other option.
Mother and baby units are subject to Care Supervision Orders.
And now there is a government backed campaign for mental health awareness of pregnant and new mums and post natal depression, these will aid evidence of ‘risk’ to their baby and allow care orders.
Read my article in Solicitors Journal ‘Treading Carefully 1st Feb 2011.
Fostering to adopt isn’t counted as prospective adopters for Re W purposes though. So at that point (pre Placement Order having been made) what Re W says about there being no presumption in favour of birth family doesn’t apply. (I’d accept that factually speaking, it is probably harder for a finely balanced case since the Court knows the child is IN a placement that is working, but legally the test for making the Placement Order is the same. It depends on how much you trust Courts to be able to separate out emotions from the legal tests, and I think people’s mileage varies on that)
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But it the foster parents, are those who are adopting, there will be a bond formed, already by the time of court hearing, which will go against the parents, who, if they are deemed either not to have a bond, or a broken one due to little access given to their removed baby/child, despite being their flesh and blood and genetics.
This bond with the prospective adopters, and its severance, will not be in the welfare of the child.
It shouldn’t, legally, but like you I suspect that in reality this is a feature which is hard to put out of the Court’s thinking.
It was a cunning plan – I’d call it clever if it wasn’t so sick
The whole system is passive-aggressive.
To have cheese in the fridge in the first place you need milk.
In the past your average dairy farm had 50 cows with an acre per cow and operated within a family environment and contrary to belief were animal centered too. Many no longer operate now because it is just not economically viable or family orientated , for it to be economically viable you would need 500 plus cows and because of the logistics of moving 500 cows across 500 acres (an acre is expensive now because land has been used as investments) it can no longer operate in a family environment or be efficent, what you now have in dairy “farms” is 500plus cows stuck in a huge factory type unit 24/7 and fed on usually imported food or scientifically balanced feed (rather than grazing the land), these places are futuristic with robot milking machines and cost £3million plus. Many farmers opted out and these small family dairy farms have closed down all across the uk over the last 40ish years (30,000 ish of them)..Britain now runs a dairy deficit, we import more than we export but we now need too because we dont have enough dairy farms left operating. The UK (and the world) has economically swung to the right, its all about the bottom line, making profit, productivity at the cost of everything else especially family life….
Do I need to point out or go any further with the analogy with regard to families and children and nurseries and breakfast clubs and after school clubs and holiday clubs. never mind family breakdown,basically life in our society moving away from a family orientated environment. .
Even for “professional” middle class couples to buy a home (even an ex council house south of manchester) both would need to be being productive economically and have their children housed in units from a few months old (Mental health is going to be a huge concern for these children in the future) or wait years to save a deposit.
like the farmers who have opted out, people are opting out of having children and family life, and the furture generations are being replaced by imports,
When is the fridge going to be empty because no one produced any milk and the imports stopped because they were both used politically ?
the child “protection” system operates in a neoliberal way, adoption is not the prefered option because its the best option, but because its the most efficient for the state and lessens its dependants, it also adds another economic macrolevel to the economy (employeeing people and creating middle class jobs, like housing associations do). All Eu countries have a declining indigenous population and need immigrants to provide the economy with workers to keep the old generation and replace the children that people have not had, but the UK has a bad reputation across europe with regard to children and even further afield in places like india too.
The EU for many migrants offers a brighter future and that’s before the tories do away with the human rights act and move further to the right economically to compete with the rest of the world on its own.
Click on the relevant link below to go straight to a particular company:
Foster Care Associates; National Fostering Agency, The Foster Care Agency; Acorn Care and Education, Fostering Solutions, Pathway Care Fostering and Heath Farm Fostering; Partnerships in Children’s Services, Orange Grove, ISP, Fosterplus and Clifford House; Swiis Foster Care; Capstone Foster Care; Compass Fostering, The Fostering Partnership, Eden Foster Care and Seafields Fostering; Caretech
https://corporatewatch.org/news/2015/dec/15/foster-care-business
Foster Care Associates
Owned by: Jim Cockburn and Janet Rees through Ideapark Ltd
Income from foster care in 2014**: £127.2m
Payouts to owner in 2014: £7m
Highest paid director salary and other benefits: £406,000
National Fostering Agency (includes the Foster Care Agency)
Owned by: Stirling Square Capital Partners (previously Graphite Capital until April 2015)
Income from foster care in 2014*: £94.5m
Payouts to owners in 2014: £14.4m to Graphite Capital
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £318,112
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Acorn Care and Education (includes Fostering Solutions, Pathway Care Fostering and Heath Farm Fostering)
Owned by: Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan
Income from foster care in 2014*: £73.1m
Payouts to owners: £13m accrued in 2014
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £266,420
back.
Partnerships in Children’s Services (includes Orange Grove, ISP, Fosterplus and Clifford House)
Owned by: Sovereign Capital
Income from foster care in 2014*: £29.8m
Payouts to owners in 2014: £1.9m
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: not shown in accounts
we have not heard back.
Swiis Foster Care
Owned by: Dev Dadral and family
Income from foster care in 2014: £29.4m
Payouts to owners in 2014: £1.5m (from the wider Swiis group, see below)
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £169,000
Capstone Foster Care
Owned by: Different individuals and companies (see below)
Income from foster care in 2015: £21.1m
Payouts to owners in 2015: £406,000
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £185,000
Compass Fostering (includes The Fostering Partnership, Eden Foster Care and Seafields Fostering)
Owned by: August Equity
Income from foster care in 2015: £25.9m
Payouts to owners in 2015: £3.1m accrued
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £131,000
caretech
Owners: shares are publicly-listed – Farouq and Haroon Sheikh biggest shareholders with 20%
Income from foster care in 2014: £12m
Payouts to owners in 2014: £240,000 in 2014
Highest paid director’s salary and other benefits: £324,000
Its appalling children being used like commodities, but Britain has a long vile history of it,it was little white slaves (children) whose blood, sweat helped to build the railways, bridges and buildings of the Industrial Revolution and mined its coal and made the textiles that made the british establishment rich and powerful.
But at least, they could remain with their families and communities. Foster children are controlled for life, and so to some extent are those adopted, particularly, if they are forced to re-enter the care system , the number of whom we do not know,
“But at least, they could remain with their families and communities”
Did they though ? Not many if any at all..
In 1615 the privy council granted a warrant that allowed the deportation of certain “convicts” to the british colonies in america and a couple of years later the warrant was extended to allow vagrant children to be deported and to be bound apprentices, which was basically slavery. In 1618 the first ship left with the children, most of them were street children, but then in 1620 the privy council ordered that recalcitrant children were taken too, which in effect meant that any child they could get their hands on were sent. This carried on until about the start of the american war of independance.
At the same time adults were also either rounded up and sent directly or imprisoned and then sent or conned into signing as indentured servants (basically slavery). Hundreds of thousands of white english adults and children were put into slavery in america to build the british empire. They even raided brothels and sent the women there for breeding.
the war of independance took men then and after the war people were deported to canada and later australia but most of these were convicts and it didn’t take much to become a convict.
The children sent obviously didn’t have their parents, but neither did those left here that were working in the pits etc, for varvious reasons many had been deported, other adult males were conned into joining the army or press ganged into the navy, plus poor men and women here in england didn’t live very long lives, in places they were lucky to reach the age of 21 and many women died in child birth.
Families and communities didn’t really exist for a majority of the poor, and alot of the children working here were also bound apprentices, many put there by the church because they were orphans plus they moved all over the country building places or to work in the mines to replace those that had died because of the conditions and its effect on their health or those that had been killed in accidents.Plus they worked from dawn to dusk, not much time for family life even if they actually had one.
Read my blog by googling finolamoss, and you’ll see how the learning disabled and autistic and other disabilities, are removed at 18, by court order if need be, to’ community living’ which is a 24/7 cage and deemed non persons with no rights, losing their legal competency, on being declared incapable under the MCA, of all decisions for life.
More are holed up under the MHA indefinitely.
3 a day die needlessly even though they are physically fit.
Why? Profit. They are worth a minimum of £4,000 and increasing guaranteed a week for effectively unaccountable care.
This along with all those taken into care.
So particularly, in view of the fact, this is done by the ‘welfare’ state, with the safety net money for the vulnerable, things are now much worse from most perspectives, morally, socially and financially. i
Surely in our long history there has never been such a state as now, when those in authority perceive the family of anyone who might “lack capacity” (is vulnerable) as enemies of the state and as such to not be allowed ANY CONTACT with their sons and daughters. And where penal notices are used to achieve this.
finolamoss it’s also a way of controlling the resources parents get for their children considered “high-functioning”. The NHS often fails to diagnose autistic or ADHD children (PDA is especially dangerous because the behaviour can be very extreme and include school-refusal through severe anxiety, but only a tiny handful of areas recognise it as a condition and will diagnose). When you have the label of attachment disorder being dished out willy-nilly for children who in fact do have a neurodevelopmental condition, that automatically places the blame on the parents and absolves the state of their duties to provide post-diagnostic autism support because they didn’t diagnose it. Despite what everyone says, about support not being diagnosis based, it most definitely is for the most part.
The British Psychological Society clearly holds parents such low esteem that they make comments in public such as this (see P30 of stakeholder comments on the NHS NICE Guidance ADHD consultation):
https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/GID-CGWAVE0798/documents/consultation-comments-and-responses
“ADD –There is also concern about the possible financial driver for parents of having a diagnosis for their child as they may benefit financially from receiving Disabled Living Allowance.”
And this LA’s public minutes on autism services: http://tinyurl.com/hs24v7e
“Q – Does this put pressure on people to provide a diagnosis?
A – There is also the issue that allowances (eg DLA) become accessible with a diagnosis.”
This shows you how professionals are thinking and it’s appalling. As is so aptly explained on these comments, it’s all about money. The NAS admits it. “In the UK we are aware of situations where clinical professionals have felt under pressure from their employers to under-assess needs in order to ration limited resources.” http://www.autism.org.uk/about/diagnosis/criteria-changes.aspx (under-assessing needs often means withholding legitimate diagnoses).
Once an autistic child becomes an adult their support rights are enshrined in the Autism Act 2009 and the Autism Strategy 2010. So diagnostic withholding and as you say, inappropriate pharmaceutical interventions which line pockets and subdue the autistic who should be supported to thrive, are for a reason. NHS professionals will avoid diagnosing actual conditions where they can and instead describe symptoms (which in some cases they can handily attribute to environmental reasons).
An autistic child without a diagnosis will find it harder to get an EHCP (even for those with a diagnosis it’s an uphill battle) and with an EHCP being a legal document this is why there is such resistance. Parents have 88% success rate challenging LA decisions at tribunal according to statistics.
So by blaming parents, sending them on parenting courses, labelling attachment difficulties or trumped up charges of emotional harm, the state starts the deliberate process of child protection with the aim of denying and controlling what families have access to.
Why has this all been allowed to go on, Children having no voice to be heard, accussers without evidence to support accussations,this involves from the judges down to the lowliest involved, is no one in fear of the Almighty? to deny will not be their saviour, vulnerable in childhood, vulnerable in old age, and who are the carers of the elderly, low paid elderly carers, and a very high percentage of these elderly carers, are the children from the care system
Well NOTINMYNAME, the tide is turning, people are more aware and in this technological age, people network and join forces and share knowledge and that is what is beginning to happen with this veritable nest of vipers. God works in mysterious ways, but work He does. The status quo has been allowed to remain for too long, the edifice of corruption is starting to crumble and it will take down those who are guilty by association with it. All it takes for evil to prevail, is for good men to stand by and do nothing, as they say. The trouble with power is, it brings arrogance and pride goeth before a fall, as they also say.