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In England, justice is open to all, like the Ritz Hotel

Is there a difference in family justice provided to middle-class parents? A discussiony paranoidy rant…

As you may know, the title of this piece is drawn from a remark by an English Judge, Sir James Mathew and was made in the Victorian era. It is intentionally barbed.

It had quite a flurry of revival in popularity  last year, as the Government debated and then implemented legal aid cuts that removed free legal advice from large chunks of the most vulnerable in society.

Private law

In terms of private law dispute, my initial question is likely to be true, sadly, as we go past April 2013.  After that time, a parent who is denied contact is going to struggle to get their case off the ground and into court unless they are (a) literate (b) articulate or (c) a person of financial means.      One might be cynical and say that the three things are interwoven, and that having three possibilities isn’t much use if they mostly capture the same group.

Of course, a person can represent themselves in court proceedings and a great many people do very well at it.  (I’d recommend Lucy Reed’s book “Family Courts without a lawyer”  for anyone who wants to do this )

But even then, the litigant in person will either need to pay the Court fee for a contact application, which will be £200, or (if they are of limited means) navigate the byzantine system by which you can avoid paying the Court fee if you can satisfy an unsatisfiable bureaucracy of your entitlement to do so, a task which exhausts many private law solicitors who are well accustomed to trying.

[A bit like the Groucho Marx line that banks will lend money to people who can prove beyond doubt that they don’t need it]

Moving beyond that, you will as a wealthy or moderately wealthy person, have an option, a choice, which is denied to the non-middle class.  You can decide whether to represent yourself or have a specialist used to navigating the courts, who speaks the same language as the judge, who can advise you.  That’s a choice that won’t be open to someone who is not middle-class.  [using middle-class as shorthand for someone who has a professional job which pays them average or better income, regardless of family background and such  – of course there are plenty of plasterers who earn more than bank clerks.   Perhaps the class debate is better expressed as ‘haves or have nots’ but is a shorthand for this piece]

If you are faced with allegations of violence or abuse, you won’t get a lawyer to represent you and defend you against them unless you have money. The other parent, the one making them, might well get a lawyer, even if the allegations are false.

More and more private law cases these days are descending into these sorts of allegations, and probably more and more will in the future, as the funding system says that making them gets you a lawyer, whereas defending yourself against allegations that you say are false, doesn’t. 

Care proceedings

What about care proceedings though? The law says that if you are a parent and the State might be intervening in the way you bring up your child and might be contemplating your child no longer living with you, you would be entitled to free legal advice.

Everyone is on a level playing field then.  Family justice is like the Ritz, it is open to everyone.

But how true is that, really?

Here are some names that you will have seen in care proceedings, often many times, if you work in this field  – Zac, Jordan, Chantelle, Destiny.

Here are some names you have probably NEVER seen in care proceedings, Oliver, Crispin, Sophia, Harriet.

You might well say, and you’d be partially right, that a large tranche of care proceedings relate to neglect, and neglect in part springs from poverty.  So, a middle-class family don’t face the same social problems as a poor family, since they have choices and options.

A middle-class parent who struggles with managing household tasks has an option to get a cleaner, or to have someone do the ironing, they don’t have to prioritise between food and electricity, or gas or a toy for their child.

I would argue that not all poor families end up neglecting their children, and that it is possible, and indeed the vast majority of poor families do it, to get their children brought up in clean, safe and loving environments despite a lack of resources.

But it is certainly true that you’re at far greater risk of living in neglect if money is very tight than if you are affluent.


[Subsequent to writing this, I came across an excellent blog post in Community Care on why more poverty does not mean more neglect :-   and is an interesting counterpoint to this debate. I don’t think we are miles apart, though I think if you increase the basic numbers of families in poverty, you may well increase the numbers of those families who don’t manage that sort of poverty well enough]

[This is reminding me of one of my favourite books, George Orwell’s “Down and Out in Paris and London”

It is altogether curious, your first contact with poverty. You have
thought so much about poverty–it is the thing you have feared all your
life, the thing you knew would happen to you sooner or later; and it, is
all so utterly and prosaically different. You thought it would be quite
simple; it is extraordinarily complicated. You thought it would be
terrible; it is merely squalid and boring. It is the peculiar LOWNESS of
poverty that you discover first; the shifts that it puts you to, the
complicated meanness, the crust-wiping….


And there is another feeling that is a great consolation in poverty. I
believe everyone who has been hard up has experienced it. It is a feeling
of relief, almost of pleasure, at knowing yourself at last genuinely down
and out. You have talked so often of going to the dogs–and well, here
are the dogs, and you have reached them, and you can stand it. It takes off
a lot of anxiety.

I have been, in case you doubt, exceedingly poor, as both a child, and as an adult, and recognise what Orwell says, particularly in his passages about how when you are truly truly hungry, nothing else in the world much exists than that hunger, that preoccupation with food and filling your belly with something.

So, perhaps the care proceedings net doesn’t cast over the “Haves” because neglect isn’t much of an issue in the “Haves” world.

But what about violence, what about sexual abuse, what about alcohol abuse?

I’m fairly certain that the disease of alcoholism, and the effect that it has on parenting, is not a class issue – it can take anyone.   In fact, I have worked, in the past, with people who drank a bottle of wine a night or more, and who would on that basis fail the sort of psychiatric examinations that we were sending parents to.

I have also encountered paedophiles from all walks of life – yes, very many were from damaged and impoverished backgrounds, but many others were teachers, professionals, doctors.

And I fail to believe that it is only poor people, only ‘common’ people, only ‘rough’ people, who reach the end of their tether, lose control and do something to a child that they should never have done.

There’s sort of a feeling, an unspoken one, in the Court rooms of this country, that child abuse is not done by people like us, that it belongs to a different world, another one, that we can look at, and judge, but not one that we truly belong in. There’s very little “there but for the grace of god” in child abuse cases.

As we know, and must remind ourselves, “The plural of anecdote is not data” and therefore it is of only  limited (or indeed no) evidential value that most of the times I have seen parents with middle-class jobs, accents, bearing and relations, facing allegations of physical mistreatment of children, a reason has been found as to why the medical evidence is wrong, and why they can be exonerated.

Efforts seem, again anecdotally to me, to be found by a mixture of professionals  (and again, I don’t claim that this is a conscious or deliberate action) to be more amenable to accepting that people like us couldn’t have done these dreadful things, than when similar things are alleged of people who live in a different sort of world to our own.

I don’t know how one could do the research on whether the outcomes for middle class parents are better for them than those for other parents – there’s no box on the application form for “Is the parent a bit posh?”    or “Do they shop at Asda or Waitrose?”   “Do they say napkin or serviette?”   but I’d like to see some, if someone wants to set out to do it.

So there is  at least the possibility of an unconscious bias of favouring or being more amenable to accepting the evidence given by people like us.

Can it go even further than that? To the overt stage, where actual cash, actual financial resources buys you a greater opportunity in a family case?

I don’t mind bribery, obviously. I don’t think that bribery plays any part in English justice. Call me naive if you want, I just honestly don’t believe that.

I had recently a conversation which prompted me to think about this piece, about a case (not one I was involved in, even tangentially and not necessarily a recent one) of suspected non-accidental injury, where the parents wanted to get a further piece of medical evidence, a fresh report. The Judge refused it, for good reasons about delay and proportionality.

The parents then pipe up that they could pay for the report themselves, rather than through legal aid, and lo and behold, there’s a reconsideration and the report is directed.

The justification, perhaps not unreasonably, is that the report is likely to be accelerated, expedited, on-time, if the expert knows that people are paying for it privately.  So the delay might not be so long, and the expert report will probably not hold the case up so much.  And of course, in the world we operate in, the Judge knows that the parents writing a cheque saves at least 2-3 weeks of messing around with the Legal Services Commission and prior authority, so the report probably will get done quicker.

Is that okay, or does that feel wrong?

It feels wrong to me that a person gets the chance to have a report not because of the merits of their case or the circumstances of the case, but because they, unlike someone else, can write a cheque and get it done.

[I couch all of this with the caveat that it wasn’t my case, I wasn’t there, I don’t know the detail – there may well have been very compelling reasons I am unaware of to have taken that course of action, but even just looking at it in the theoretical sense, would it be right in this hypothetical case below to allow the report?


Doctor says “I can do the report in 12 weeks, on public funding, but if it is paid for at my private rates, which are higher, I can do it in 5” 


If the Judge was going to refuse the report on basis that 12 weeks delay was too long, should she allow it in 5, if the parents are able to pay for it privately?    Or, is refusing it, if 5 weeks is considered reasonable delay, unfair just to preserve equality with some notional other parents who couldn’t pay the private fees?]



Can you go off and pay for your own expert without the Court’s permission?

Well, there have been some important decisions about that.  Firstly, you need leave of the Court to give the papers to the expert, and then  if you get leave of the court to instruct an expert, you have to cough up the report even if it is not favourable to you (unlike in crime)   [Re L : A Minor : Police Investigation : Privilege 1996 1 FLR 731 and then Re V (Care Proceedings : Human Rights Claims 2004 1 FLR 944]


If you don’t get leave of the Court and go off and get the report anyway, it still has to be disclosed.

[If there are ongoing criminal proceedings, the parent can keep those reports secret and even refuse to say if there are any expert reports and who has written them, and can keep legal privilege when discussing those reports with their care lawyer  S County Council v B 2000 2 FLR 161]

One clever way around this was tried in RE J (Application for shadow expert) 2008 1 FLR 1501

Where the applicant sought permission not to obtain a report that would have to be disclosed whether it was positive or negative, but instead an expert to basically advise the lawyer and formulate good questions for cross-examination and be a sounding board for the barrister’s theories. 

The Court felt that this was not appropriate and would not be granted. And of course, it would only have been a course open to someone paying for the report privately.

Can you get a better barrister by paying money?

A parent relying on a barrister who is being paid with public funding (or what all sane people call “Legal Aid”) will get proper advice, from someone who works hard and does their best and is bright.  All barristers who have experience in care proceedings do legal aid work, so you can’t get some better barrister, better advice by paying privately.  There’s not a Premier League of barristers who know about care but don’t do legal aid work.

I would NOT, for a second, suggest that the average barrister works harder or better on a case that they are earning more money on, I don’t think money comes into it. Honestly, I don’t.

But what you can get, potentially, is a QC.  If you are willing to pay for it, you can get a QC in a case that the LSC (legal services commission, or what sane people call the legal aid board) would not let you have one for free. 

That QC is the best of the best, and may give you an edge in the case.  Though some barristers who don’t have QC after their name are better advocates than some QCs, in general, a QC is going to be better.

It may well send a subliminal message to the Court about your case and the quality of it. Certainly there’s always an impression that the Court treats a QC with more respect than a run of the mill advocate.

Or you may not even need to go that far. Suppose you think about your barrister doing your case for public funding – they will work hard at your case, and put in effort. But they have another case the week before where they are doing that, and another the week after.

Might you get better representation from the same barrister, if you were willing to pay them to take two or three days off the week before your case to prepare?

We can’t know for certain, but I’d suggest that we all work better when we’re not shattered.

That’s an option available to those who have money that doesn’t exist for those who don’t.

Ring your solicitor up and say “I think my barrister should really only work on my case and nothing else the week before the hearing”, and you’ll get this answer if you have no money “That’s a nice idea, but I’m afraid it doesn’t work like that”   – and if you have lots of money, this answer  “They don’t normally do that, but we could see if they would – it would be very expensive though, you’d be paying for seven days of their time instead of five. Do you want me to speak to them about it?”

So, is English family justice really like the Ritz, or am I just crackers?


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13 responses

  1. Family Court legal aid solicitors acting for parents against the LA are “professional losers”;
    Have you ever heard one of these strenuously oppose an interim care order?No I thought not ;All they do is advise hapless parents to “go along with social services” We will speak for you (gag) so we can earn easy money by surrendering to “the opposition”!Surely solicitors and barristers in family courts should either represent either parents or local authorities but not both. They should not “defend” one day and then in effect “prosecute” the next as they will become biased in favour of local authorities who give them many cases whilst a family can only give their own ! Get rid of such parasites or reform the system !

    • Oh Ian… yes, I’ve seen lots of parents solicitors vigorously fight me against interim care orders, and sometimes they succeed. I will be fair and say that maybe the people who approach you are a self-selecting group, who come to you precisely BECAUSE the system has let them down. So, yes, I’m sure that all of the parents who approach you genuinely feel that’s the case and for many of those, their lawyers have let them down. But honestly, there are far easier, more lucrative and less draining jobs to do than to represent parents in care proceedings, and most people who do it do so because they are bloody committed about it. It isn’t for the money, Ian, the money in care cases is awful compared to almost any other sort of law they could be doing.

      • Suesspiciousminds, it is a fact that most professionals in any sphere choose their careers for continuity and security of employment. Some additionally for social status or ‘mega bucks’. A child protection lawyer is always going to have work and may not be cut out for other areas of the law, just as doctors specialise because they have a better aptitude / interest for their chosen field.

        I also understand there are rather a lot of lawyers in the UK, which makes most unable to earn the mega bucks.

      • Our solicitor and barrister let us down and none of the suitcase of evidence I gave them got before the judge as they were following a proforma – so many parents have the same experience. We need urgent reform and a stop to experst writing reports on ‘patients’ they never see.

        I have written a book about our experience of a false allegation of Shaken Baby that nearly led to the removal of our children. The book “When Truth no longer Matters” details what happened and the eventual correct diagnosis for our son. (All proceeds to the campaign)
        I am working with Rioch Edwards-Brown, campaigner and founder of The 5%ers – a support group for wrongfully accused parents and we have set up an e-petition to try and get the UK Government to ensure there are better protocols to stop wrongful allegations and to stop abused children slipping through the net.
        Any support would be gratefully received and your can sign the e-petition here:
        Thank you!

  2. From Peter Dale’s “What Really Happened?”:
    “A social class element does seem to be a factor. In situations where babies
    received very similar injuries, we noted different child protection processes and outcomes
    between middle-class families who had the resources and resilience to challenge the child
    protection system (via obtaining second opinions, independent assessments or
    well-articulated complaints), as opposed to poorer families without such resources and
    motivation. It can appear on occasions that working-class parents have to give
    more convincing explanations than middle-class parents for injuries to achieve the
    same outcomes.
    Middle-class parents also demonstrated another significant advantage in that they were
    invariably able to negotiate/demand far higher levels of contact with their child in care than
    were working class parents. On occasions this could be a striking differential. In one middle-class case, a court ordered extensive daily contact between parents and their child who was in
    a foster placement. In contrast, in a concurrent case, a very poor, learning disabled, single
    mother who suffered from epilepsy, was only allowed brief contact once a week. ”

    Click to access wrh.pdf

  3. I also think that poor people more often come to the notice of child protection bodies simply because their lives are more “transparent”. For instance, if parents often have noisy quarrels (“domestic violence”, regularly quoted in the cases), this fact is more likely to come to the attention of the child protection agency if they live in an apartment block than if they reside in an individual house. Also, poor people contact social services because they often need benefits, and these contacts too make them more exposed. As the Belgian journalist Florence Bellone wrote, “HOW SOCIAL SERVICES GET INVOLVED WITH A FAMILY? …ASKING SOCIAL SERVICES FOR HELP. This is the major trap in which the humblest families are regularly falling. Families used to live in dependency of the state are literally social workers preys. They would call social services for solving some education or material problem.”

  4. An analogy might be made with access to medical specialists. Everyone can access the NHS free- but we know health inequalities are rife and widening in spite of this.

    A poor uneducated person, e.g. ill with an undetected cancer, we know from research is likely to wait longer and fare less well than the articulate middle class patient who asks questions, reads up as to who is the ‘expert’ and ‘pushes’ for an investigation and the most up to date treatment.

    If you have money private medicine offers more choice and speed, with the same doctors, including the doctor you have researched as the expert you want. But even with money for rapid access to specialists unless one is educated, articulate and is able to research as to whom one should see, it does not guarantee the person you are referred to will be the best with the required level of knowledge/ experience and research work of your particular condition.

    The Good Doctor Guide used to ask doctors to recommend specialists they would seek for themselves and their families- it was a select group of specialists, so clearly all doctors in a field were not considered equal by their peers. Only one doctor in the book only did NHS work.

    So It will be with the specialists in the law, there will be those that peers would use themselves preferentially if they were unfortunate to be subject to family court/ care proceedings.

    I do not believe all people going into a profession are equal in skills and experience and ability, some even probably not up to the most rigorous standards, like some doctors. But parents subject to care proceedings have no idea who they are getting because there are no independent ‘guides’ and the barrister/ lawyer also represents the opponent so there is a conflict of interest inherent.

    People go into professions mostly for the job security and money. Geeks with a passion for their field of work are rare- like the Bill Gates of the world. If you have passion then you do not worry about the fees you might loose in securing justice.

  5. there is definitely a sociocentric view of working class/poor people from the middle class professionals in public law care proceedings…..and I would go further, its the same view or belief in them selves that allows SW’s to lie and experts to lie,they believe they are actually taking the right course of action against who they perceive as being below them, the judge can not really start to question their honesty otherwise the whole professional class could start to crumble of which they are a part of….. its also the same view that lead to the “spiriting” of the poor’s children to the old empire for nearly 400 years

  6. This article is extremely thought provoking. It’s reassuring to have you “confirm” my own sentiments; in lieu of the whispers in disbelief that my soapbox is nothing more than the “paranoid delusions of an unfit mother”

    Your article is well articulated, and in “control”.


  7. Do you think a S.10 LASPO exceptional case determination might allow for representation of an alleged perpetrator of DV or other abuse in private law proceedings?
    An excellent piece, balanced,fair and provoking thought.

    • I guess that it might, though I don’t feel very comfortable with any funding that is determined by the LSC deciding that there are exceptional grounds to spend their budget, rather than the State deciding that certain categories should be funded.

      • It certainly should be possible. An alleged DV perp is just that – an ALLEGED perp.

        Or does he not matter once the allegation is made?

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